TIRES will make or break you rig. often you need to lift to fit bigger tires, with that lift your ifs will have cv joint angularity, (unless you go body lift) causing wear and tear and eventual premature failure, if you don't think so this is a fact! your bigger tires will add weight needing more torque on your axles to move them also leading to premature failure.
wheel travel = flex, dont matter if your frame flexes like old fords and chevs. wheel travel is wheel travel.
it is one way guys compare apples to oranges when it comes to different rigs.
you asked which is better, realistically they both have there ups and downs.
solid axles weather on links and coil overs or strapped to leaf springs will "articulate" much easier with less money dumped into it and depending upon axle strength you can run what ever size tires you can fit with lift. However one will suffer on the highway for it, with a hard ride, possible bump steer, bogger wobble, and a plain old bumpy ride. solid axles are easier to lift and modify.
the beloved IFS will ride smooth over almost any terrain at speed including dirt roads and the highway. you are restricted to tire size depending on how much body your willing to sacrifice, and the very limited amount of lift you can attain. ifs are limited to how much "articulation" they can attain based upon their inherent design.
gaining wheel travel with a long arm ifs is just not cost effective for your average Joe blow, and being that they are fabbed together they could be Micky moused just like the rest of us. http://www.chaosfab.com/95000BJ.html
I understand where you are comming from on a few points here my buddy had a tracker and just some 30" all terrains thing went every where he had a will to take it, only thing that ever broke was the bolts that hold the bottom of the strut to the knuckle cause he let my CRAZY friend drive the piss out of it in a gravel pit. however i found it under powered with 30 " tires I couldn't imagine one with 32" tires on it, plus if you amp up the power to compensate you will start to break shit.
I refer to the second part of fattys comment
"Back to your first question in your first post.....why does every manufacturer on the planet use IFS???......because every soccer mom and yuppie wants to have 4wheel drive for the snow or a dirt road and not feel like they are on a dirt road, they want comfort, they want to feel badass. These are the people that are buying so this is what the companies are producing....... "
I really have to agree with this, its for the guy who wants to do high speeds and still lock it in 4wd, or ever just have Awd in the design and still drive smoothly.
this is why every company on the face of the planet has turned that way.
I am not an engineer either I refer to things other people and manufacturers have done in the past, things that work and have been tried tested and true for decades. that's why all the Dino tech form the Paleolithic era, I am not a front runner in technology I don't develop new tec either, if you want to talk to developers talk to the guys at karnage fab, go look at the twin A arm suspension hes building for a rock buggy, now that's a front runner. I would never suggest any one here tries to do that themselves without many years of schooling under their belts.
I was not referring to any joints, technically the leaf bushings allow for some movement if you want to get technical however I was pointing out you are referring to a joint like a hinge while I am talking about axle articulation which are completely unrelated and there fore out of context when used improperly in an explanation, therefore hopefully bridging the gap of misunderstanding.
honestly guru wheel travel is more accurate, however it has always been expressed as axle articulation to me. guess its cause you and I went to different schools
fuck thats my birthday weekend, i honestly dont think i will make it out, though i would love too! I will certainly try.
TIRES will make or break you rig. often you need to lift to fit bigger tires, with that lift your ifs will have cv joint angularity, (unless you go body lift) causing wear and tear and eventual premature failure, if you don't think so this is a fact! your bigger tires will add weight needing more torque on your axles to move them also leading to premature failure.
wheel travel = flex, dont matter if your frame flexes like old fords and chevs. wheel travel is wheel travel.
it is one way guys compare apples to oranges when it comes to different rigs.
you asked which is better, realistically they both have there ups and downs.
solid axles weather on links and coil overs or strapped to leaf springs will "articulate" much easier with less money dumped into it and depending upon axle strength you can run what ever size tires you can fit with lift. However one will suffer on the highway for it, with a hard ride, possible bump steer, bogger wobble, and a plain old bumpy ride. solid axles are easier to lift and modify.
the beloved IFS will ride smooth over almost any terrain at speed including dirt roads and the highway. you are restricted to tire size depending on how much body your willing to sacrifice, and the very limited amount of lift you can attain. ifs are limited to how much "articulation" they can attain based upon their inherent design.
gaining wheel travel with a long arm ifs is just not cost effective for your average Joe blow, and being that they are fabbed together they could be Micky moused just like the rest of us. http://www.chaosfab.com/95000BJ.html
I understand where you are comming from on a few points here my buddy had a tracker and just some 30" all terrains thing went every where he had a will to take it, only thing that ever broke was the bolts that hold the bottom of the strut to the knuckle cause he let my CRAZY friend drive the piss out of it in a gravel pit. however i found it under powered with 30 " tires I couldn't imagine one with 32" tires on it, plus if you amp up the power to compensate you will start to break shit.
I refer to the second part of fattys comment
"Back to your first question in your first post.....why does every manufacturer on the planet use IFS???......because every soccer mom and yuppie wants to have 4wheel drive for the snow or a dirt road and not feel like they are on a dirt road, they want comfort, they want to feel badass. These are the people that are buying so this is what the companies are producing....... "
I really have to agree with this, its for the guy who wants to do high speeds and still lock it in 4wd, or ever just have Awd in the design and still drive smoothly.
this is why every company on the face of the planet has turned that way.
I am not an engineer either I refer to things other people and manufacturers have done in the past, things that work and have been tried tested and true for decades. that's why all the Dino tech form the Paleolithic era, I am not a front runner in technology I don't develop new tec either, if you want to talk to developers talk to the guys at karnage fab, go look at the twin A arm suspension hes building for a rock buggy, now that's a front runner. I would never suggest any one here tries to do that themselves without many years of schooling under their belts.
I was not referring to any joints, technically the leaf bushings allow for some movement if you want to get technical however I was pointing out you are referring to a joint like a hinge while I am talking about axle articulation which are completely unrelated and there fore out of context when used improperly in an explanation, therefore hopefully bridging the gap of misunderstanding.
honestly guru wheel travel is more accurate, however it has always been expressed as axle articulation to me. guess its cause you and I went to different schools