Hi there. I'm new to this forum and looking forward to sharing information. I wondered if anyone knew any alternative routes to Diversion and Bear Creek Reservoirs, deep in the Sooke Hills. The main access route via the Butler Main from Otter Point has of course been permanently closed and gated for a decade by Timber West. It's a tangled web of jurisdiction back there. The East Main from Jordan River - used by BC Hydro, Western Forest Products and a variety of private logging contractors - remains accessible but it's going over a cliff - literally. After years of extensive logging, it's heavily eroded with slides, washouts and blowdown, as well as a lot of nasty exposed rock. Only the first few km from the highway turnoff appears to have had any maintenance in recent years. Last year I destroyed a tire and hub back there. Last Sunday I got through OK as far as Diversion but it took a full hour, and I decided not to carry on to Bear Creek. I am trying to find out from BC Hydro if they have any plans to upgrade the road - they insist it has not been abandoned - but I was wondering if it is possible to get in from the Shawnigan Lake end via the extensive network of roads there, some of which are also gated. I have often seen and heard vehicles rumbling down the north shore of Beer Creek reservoir on the Butler Main and wondered if the drivers all have cutting permits, they've somehow managed to get keys from Timber West or if they have found another access route.